They used to be very expensive. Then I lost interest, for obvious reasons. Now... I suppose I should try. Maybe it's something to look forward to. The ice cream was nice.
[He's starting to drift, and thinking about food is easy and, well, what passes for comforting right now. A distraction.]
[He is confirming that he doesn't just look like shit. Sounds like it, too.]
I'll grab berries next time I'm at the grocery store.
[And any other fruits that will taste good.]
Hyne created tools to remove a mountain, before falling asleep. The tools finished their work, but Hyne still slept. So, they spread out and shaped the world on their own. The tools were people and Hyne wasn't happy when he woke up. [Wait...this might not be a good story to share with someone who is down and sick.]
Any time. [Hear the smile in his voice? Zell likes being useful even if it's fruit delivery!]
Yeah, pretty much. [That's not the only thing built into humanity.] Humans began a war against Hyne after he decided to reduce the population by killing all the children. [Such a thoughtful creator.]
[Now that gives Beckett pause. He's familiar with a hundred mythologies, and some of them are stranger than others, but he has a feeling that this is not going where he expects it to.]
Next you're going to tell me they've won. [A cautious counter-intuitive guess.] I've heard of creator figures being destroyed, but... always by other divinities. Never by humanity, not until the modern era.
[He's right about it.] Yeah, humanity won. Hyne offered his powers to the people by giving up half of his body before vanishing.
[And now for the part that is predictable-] The issue was that no one could agree on which tribe should be in charge of it. War broke out amongst the tribes. What they didn't know was that they were tricked. [The people got Loki'd.] By the time the realized the half left to them had no power, Hyne was no where to be found.
From creator to false idol to trickster god, perhaps a seducer, a fall...? The parts all make sense, but fitting them together... structuralist nightmare, maybe if it belonged to some mysteries cult...
[There's a little more anthropological mumbling after this - in the face of the unknown, theory is comforting. Then he sneezes loudly, which snaps him back to the here and now with a bit of a start.] Wait, the - so - you mean - your religion is based on your god as your enemy?
[He patiently waits for Beckett to go through mumbling. Making almost an amused sound as he nods (even if Beckett can't see it)]
Yeah, pretty much. There is a final part to it all. [Giving a pause as he looks over at Jim for a moment, who was listening in.] Sorceresses in my world are known as Hyne's Descendants. They are the only ones magic comes to naturally. It's believed that the reason Hyne can't be found is because he hid himself in women.
Of course it is. Any excuse for theological misogyny... [But that is just holding off while he thinks - tries to think through the implications. And mostly getting a headache from it. It isn't the point, it doesn't make things clearer, it doesn't...]
I... I haven't heard that one before. You've got me. I don't know if... it sounds bleak. To be enemies of the one who made you.
[He makes a thoughtful hum under his breath.] How about you think of it this way- when things are shitty, you can still band together to take down anything, including a God.
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Date: 2016-05-12 11:08 am (UTC)[He's starting to drift, and thinking about food is easy and, well, what passes for comforting right now. A distraction.]
Is Hyne a religion in your world?
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Date: 2016-05-12 07:40 pm (UTC)You should try mixing fruit in the ice cream.
Like berries.
Have you have cookies yet? They are pretty good.
Where I'm from, Hyne made the world and the people.
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Date: 2016-05-13 02:40 pm (UTC)i know cookies
[Too unfocused to type now. He switches to voice feed, sounding tired, stuffed up, and generally rambling.]
We used to have cookies. They were probably very different, it's been very long... what do the lectures say about Hyne?
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Date: 2016-05-15 01:31 am (UTC)I'll grab berries next time I'm at the grocery store.
[And any other fruits that will taste good.]
Hyne created tools to remove a mountain, before falling asleep. The tools finished their work, but Hyne still slept. So, they spread out and shaped the world on their own. The tools were people and Hyne wasn't happy when he woke up. [Wait...this might not be a good story to share with someone who is down and sick.]
voice
Date: 2016-05-15 11:54 am (UTC)[What has he got to lose? Certainly not dignity. He's aaaaall out of dignity.
The story makes him give a dry chuckle. Well.] So you're saying disobedience was built into humanity from the start, in your creation myth.
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Date: 2016-05-16 09:45 pm (UTC)Yeah, pretty much. [That's not the only thing built into humanity.] Humans began a war against Hyne after he decided to reduce the population by killing all the children. [Such a thoughtful creator.]
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Date: 2016-05-17 11:43 am (UTC)Next you're going to tell me they've won. [A cautious counter-intuitive guess.] I've heard of creator figures being destroyed, but... always by other divinities. Never by humanity, not until the modern era.
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Date: 2016-05-18 04:39 pm (UTC)[And now for the part that is predictable-] The issue was that no one could agree on which tribe should be in charge of it. War broke out amongst the tribes. What they didn't know was that they were tricked. [The people got Loki'd.] By the time the realized the half left to them had no power, Hyne was no where to be found.
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Date: 2016-05-20 02:04 pm (UTC)[There's a little more anthropological mumbling after this - in the face of the unknown, theory is comforting. Then he sneezes loudly, which snaps him back to the here and now with a bit of a start.] Wait, the - so - you mean - your religion is based on your god as your enemy?
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Date: 2016-05-25 05:08 am (UTC)Yeah, pretty much. There is a final part to it all. [Giving a pause as he looks over at Jim for a moment, who was listening in.] Sorceresses in my world are known as Hyne's Descendants. They are the only ones magic comes to naturally. It's believed that the reason Hyne can't be found is because he hid himself in women.
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Date: 2016-05-25 06:17 am (UTC)I... I haven't heard that one before. You've got me. I don't know if... it sounds bleak. To be enemies of the one who made you.
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Date: 2016-05-25 08:05 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-05-26 10:38 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2016-05-30 07:32 pm (UTC)We still gave him reason enough to want to hide.
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Date: 2016-05-31 02:54 pm (UTC)